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মৌ | 24.96.***.*** | ২২ জুলাই ২০১৩ ২৩:৪৫617309- Indranil Saha the article ends with a ray of positivity...but it was a confusing read for sure.
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Bishnupriya Das bissa korun puro ta pore shes korar moto patience rakha ta sombhob holo na,it just made my blood boil,,jei eta likheche take jodi akbar hater kache petam to tar haar pajor vhenge gurie ditam by god
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Debbiee Nath Germanotta mayb the first tym wen u read the article, it makes u tempted but read it with a cool mind n try to get the inner meaning of it n the last line mainly..
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Bishnupriya Das i cant believe ,i remember reading an article on this robibasorio about one year ago and that article was quite supportive of homosexuality,wtf happened to them within one year??
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Prithviraj Nath thats the point many of us are pondering on Bishnupriya Das...it can be a clever ploy by ABP to say the right thing and yet cause a lot of controversy that they can easily "answer" with that one line at the end...but the fact remains that the "subtle point" will be lost on a whole lot of people...it certainly was on me when i first read it...m happy to re-discover the other angle in this..but as i said, this is too subtle for most people...
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Bishnupriya Das sorry but did i miss something?? Is it a satire or somethng kind? I didnt read the last part
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Pompi Banerjee uh, it's a satire!!!! seriously, she's really calling out the hipocrisy of the ''treatments'' suggested over the years...
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Prithviraj Nath lol..okkies..this debate is closed from my end...i take back the "retort" thing... it was a jump reaction.... please note Anis Ray Chaudhuri , Pawan Dhall and Aniruddha Dutta...it isnt so bad to be fooled at times after all..
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Debbiee Nath Germanotta i agree with Prithviraj Nath..as i was making ppl read it 4 out of 5 had a positive view but 1 had a negetive view..so its very true that some ppl might get the negetive side of the article..mayb she acted very cleverly nd wanted that both +ve nd -ve viewers might support it..
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Bishnupriya Das how can u call it a satire?? The last line is 'get well soon' wow damn!! I say 'bitch i m not suffering from any disease,u fucking oil ur own machine' i cant believe such a renound newspaper like anadabajar could pass it impossible,gotta stop reading these shitty newspapers
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Debbiee Nath Germanotta Bishnupriya Das, the last line says that the ppl who wants to cure it should get well soon n not the victims.
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Bishnupriya Das my parents are not too well educated enough to understand what is a 'satire' ,i bet they never heard the word satire ever in their lives and most parents havent i can assure,and i have no doubt what kind of effect it could have on them ,they would rush to a psychiatrist with their gay kids to 'treat' them i am sure
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Prithviraj Nath yes Debbiee and Bishnupriya..that concern remains....maybe it will be good to point that out to the author ...
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Pranjal D Phoenix Why did I even read it?? A complete psychopath that lady is!!! What is she trying to prove?? The article reflects her lack of education however convincing and educated she might try to sound. She is a big disgrace to humanity when it comes to the point of equality of human rights.
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Awe-vishek Guha Thakurta i take back my words regarding writing a letter to ABP and all, after reading the article twice, thrice! however, most of my friends, they only read the first few paras, and couldn't read the rest. also in our daily life, who has such patience to read and re-read an article twice or thrice. most of us, including me, came to conclusion that it is a hideous article. so even if it is a satire, that usage of language could have been more subtle.
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Bishnupriya Das look in what a fucking disrespectful manner she is describing samesexuality,just made me utterly mad ,i dont undrstand what problem do these ignorant,emotionless ppl have with us?,,we are also humans,why they think they could talk bullcrap about us and we accept it
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Debbiee Nath Germanotta i totally agree wid u Awe-vishek Guha Thakurta
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Bishnupriya Das yeah right,she could use mild language,but she is so furious she seems like letting out all her hatred and disgust for homosexuals through one article
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Prithviraj Nath i am alright with the language..in fact the satire wouldn't have come through otherwise..but its only she doesnt sufficiently indicate that it is satire after all...there could be this debate about us not being intelligent enough to see through it...but with that kind of scathing language, i feel she would have done better to have a line or two more towards indicating the true nature of her article...
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Akash Questing Eternity not only the last line,the total article is full of sarcasm.for instance : ওষুধ আর যোগাভ্যাসের সঙ্গে পড়তে থাকুন বই। যেমন ধরুন, পুরুষ সমকামিতা সারানোর জন্য জো ডালাস প্রণীত ‘ডিজায়ার্স ইন কনফ্লিক্ট’ ও লেসবিয়ানত্ব কাটাতে অ্যানা পোলক-এর ‘রেস্টোরিং সেকশুয়াল আইডেন্টিটি’। আর প্রিভেনশন কিয়োর হতে বেটার, সুবিদিত এই আপ্তবাক্য স্মরণে রেখে উঠতি বয়সের সন্তানের পিতামাতার জন্য অবশ্যপাঠ্য বই হল নার্থ (ন্যাশনাল অ্যাসোসিয়েশন ফর রিসার্চ অ্যান্ড থেরাপি অব হোমোসেকশুয়ালিটি)-এর নিকোলসি দম্পতি প্রণীত ‘আ পেরেন্টস্ গাইড টু প্রিভেন্টিং হোমোসেকশুয়ালিটি’।
কিনতে গিয়ে দেখবেন, নানা সাইট ভরে রয়েছে এই ধরনের রিভিউ-তে: ব্লার্বে বলা আছে, বইটি ‘ক্লিনিকাল এক্সপিরিয়েন্স ও প্রফেশনাল রিসার্চের ভিত্তিতে লেখা’। অথচ আদৌ তা না, এটা লেখকের কোনও রকম ভিত্তিহীন নিজস্ব মতামত মাত্র, যা একটি গোষ্ঠীর বিশেষ প্রোপাগান্ডা। মনোচিকিৎসক ও গবেষকদের সঙ্গে এই মত মেলে না। এমনকী এ রকম বেশ কিছু বই উইথড্র করাও শুরু হয়েছে! here the writer makes it clear that the books which are meant to cure homosexuality are nothing but propaganda.
5 hours ago · Like · 2
Pranjal D Phoenix I painted an abstract picture. People started shouting "Hey look!! It's an elephant!!" All of them start discussing the qualities of the elephant. One other man takes a look at it and says, "No! It's not an elephant! It's a lion!" Again some people deviate from their original thoughts. A debate ensues about what it really is. In the end, only i know that I had used some random colours to kill my time and initiate a debate!
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Bishnupriya Das and even if it was a satire i bet 99 percent parents wouldnt get it ,just as if i make my aunt read it i know what would be her response,she would come to my mom and tell her to look for a husband for me cuz the righter says marry them off and its 'cured'
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Akash Questing Eternity রিপারেটিভ ও অ্যাফার্মেটিভ থেরাপিতে উৎসাহ দিচ্ছেন এঁদের মনোবিজ্ঞানীরা। অর্থাৎ, বিষমকামিতাকে ভাল লাগানোর চেষ্টা। কিন্তু এ নিয়েও নিন্দুকের দল সরব। সমকামিতা একটি মানসিক অসুখ, শোনামাত্র ঝাঁপিয়ে পড়বেন এঁরা। বলবেন, এ সবই নাকি সাজানো, চক্রান্ত, অপপ্রচার! আমেরিকান সাইকায়াট্রিক অ্যাসোসিয়েশন নাকি ১৯৭৩-এই এই মর্মে রায় দিয়ে দিয়েছেন আর লগে লগে আমাদের ভারতীয় সাইকায়াট্রিক অ্যাসোসিয়েশনও নাকি একই কথা বলেছেন, টেবিল চাপড়ে দেখিয়ে দেবেন সব তথ্য-প্রমাণাদি। প্রফেসর রবার্ট স্পিৎজারের (যিনি, খুব আশ্চর্যজনক ভাবে, সেই ১৯৭৩-এ সমকামিতা অসুখ নয়, এই নিয়ে আন্দোলনের পুরোধা ছিলেন!) যে পেপারটিতে বলা হয়েছিল, এই রিপারেটিভ থেরাপিতে কাজ হবার সম্ভাবনা আছে, এবং নিন্দুকরা বলতেন, সেটিই নাকি সবেধন নীলমণি, একমাত্র প্রামাণ্য জার্নালের পেপার ছিল, আর সমকামিতা- সারানেওয়ালারা কুমিরছানার মতো নাকি কেবল ওটিকেই কোট করে চলতেন, সেই স্পিৎজারও কিনা শেষে মীরজাফর হলেন! ওই পেপার ভুল ছিল বলে এখন নিজেই রিট্র্যাক্ট করতে চেয়েছেন। বলেছেন, এই থেরাপিতে কাজ হয়, এমন কথা ওই স্টাডি দিয়ে আদৌ বলা যায় না!
পাত্তা দেবেন না। বুড়ো বয়সে ভীমরতি ধরেছে! these lines are also satiric.here the writer points to the fact that both american psychological association and indian psychiatric association do not consider 'homosexuality" a disease.she also indicates the failure of reparative therapy when she mentions about the confession of Robert Spitzer !! "patta deben na,buro boyose vimroti hoyeche" these lines chides the homophobes.
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Awe-vishek Guha Thakurta yes, when i read the article again, i am getting all the points.. but when i read the article for the first time, then it was impossible to read till the end. if this is the case with me, then i wonder what will happen to those parents, who are trying to deal with this situation, they must have got a ray of hope, that this is curable. i can give one example, one of my friend called me and told that,"dekhechis, eta curable bolche!".. then i asked her to read it again. we can't question everyone's intelligence here, right! anyway, i rest my case here. i will expect others to read and re-read before commenting going forward.
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- মৌ | 24.96.***.*** | ২২ জুলাই ২০১৩ ২৩:৪৫617308
- ফেসবুকে অসুখ সারানের নির্যাস এ বি পি'র রবিবারসরীয় ঘিরে সমকামী গ্রুপে ভুলভ্রান্তির এক শেষ--
I hope you all have read this report in yesterday's edition of Ananda bazzar patrika's Rabibasoriyo section.. if not, i would request all to please go through it!! i am having serious doubts about the mental condition of this woman!!
http://www.anandabazar.com/archive/1130721/21rabigol.html
please go through it and share your views!! thanks!
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Suresh Singh Rajput Abhi..i didnt gt to read..becz its in bangla..
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Pranaadhika Montenegro Sinha Devburman Pawan Dhall - I think we might need to revive Drishtikone on an urgent basis.
7 hours ago · Like · 1
Soumik Chatterjee ja pereche likheche...sesh ta porli Awe-vishek...treatment gulo r description gulo..ki jachhetai.....
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Prithviraj Nath this is almost unbelievable!!! ....Anandabazar eta chhapiyechhe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Prithviraj Nath let us put together a very strong retort to this and send it to all media vehicles along with Anandabazar..
7 hours ago · Like · 5
Prithviraj Nath Anis Ray Chaudhuri can you please draft an appropriate response in Bangla....? Aniruddha Dutta/ Pawan Dhall can either of you please do an English one? I can also do a draft English version that you can change/edit...this is outrageous!
btw, Debbiee, did Anandabazar include a disclaimer that says the content of the article are entirely the opinion of the author and blah blah?
7 hours ago · Like · 1
Nilanjan Piku De Prithviraj da ABP jemon kothao boleni...temon chepeche-o to...kirokom akromonatmok bhasha...r seta editor khub anondo sohokare chepeche.... lekha ta porei bojha jacche je writer kirokom protihingsha mulok manosikota-r odhikari...
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Soumik Chatterjee height of perversion---to cure a gay..show him nude pics of men and if he gets aroused give him electric shocks...!!!.. unbelievable that people still have such medieval mentality...
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Prithviraj Nath It is at times important for the media to give cognizance to dissenting voices for any debate to be fair..but this is no debate, this is hatred...plain malice
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Awe-vishek Guha Thakurta completely!!
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Rupsha Sb Wow! ABP people are seriously out of their minds to have let this person write such crap!
@all can we not write something to the newspaper or something like that?
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Sayan Bhattacharya "এই অসুখ সারাতে উদগ্রীব সকলের জন্য রইল শুভেচ্ছা বার্তা, গেট ওয়েল সুন।" ei last lineta kintu important! The author is saying that those people who want to cure homosexuality/non normative sexuality should get well soon. This means the problem is not with homosexuals but with the ones who think it's a disease!So they have to get well. In that sense, isn't the article a satire on such people? At least the tone of the piece so suggests! However, in these times of short attention span, the article has the scope to be misread as homophobic and can send completely wrong signals to the general public! So the writer should have given a disclaimer at the end clarifying her standpoint! Now this is my opinion...correct me if I am wrong! Awe-vishek Guha ThakurtaPrithviraj NathPranaadhika Montenegro Sinha Devburman
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Prithviraj Nath Sayan Bhattacharya i also noticed that line and for a moment i also debated like you are doing here....but the point is if the whole article so unabashedly talks about homophobia as the "right approach" a small obtuse line at the end can not suffice for it to establish it as a satire...
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Sananda Ganguli i have read the entire article, eta puro tai banghattok form e lekha ekta article to those who are actually homophobic.
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Awe-vishek Guha Thakurta May be you are right Sayan! However,if that would have been her intention, then she should have used the disclaimer in the beginning! If someone only reads the first few paragraphs, then what impression that person will get, just imagine!! She should have more careful with the usage of the language!
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Prithviraj Nath my initial reaction was that of disbelief..and then as i re-read it, the possibility of it being a satire crossed my mind..but if it is, this is very bad communication indeed!
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Debbiee Nath Germanotta m apologizing myself for watevr i hv told about the article...i've made 5 ppl read the article nd hv asked for their comments..nd i myself read the artical twice nd then thrice..n before i read it twice, among the 5 ppl 4 of their view was totally different..they think ths article is an irony for them who think this to be curable..mayb the reporter is trying to say about the treatments done against it..her last line says "whoever wants this to be cured..they will get well soon nd the ppl who r trying to cure the victim of homosexuality should get cured first"..so i request everyone to go through the article again..mayb i am wrong but i am making more ppl read it n researching on it..
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- Muskaan Chakraborty Bishnupriya Das :If they are homophobic,i think they will not be able to make out the actual meaning.
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Subh Dutta accrdnfg to ipsita paul boumik "চার পাশের বাকি মানুষজনের থেকে আলাদা হওয়া অস্বাভাবিকতা নয় তো কী? আর, অস্বাভাবিকতা, অসুখ নয় তো কী? হ্যাঁ, অপরাধ না হোক, এটা অসুস্থতা। এবং, অসুখ বলেই সমকামিতা সেরেও যেতে পারে।
অতএব, অসুখ সারান""""""what does it mean Pompi Banerjee????????????
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Bishnupriya Das @Muskaan,thats why i am talking about the 'common people'( those who r not well or properly educated) who are ignorant and are not aware of lgbt rights ,they are no doubt homophobic,thats why they think that its a disease,and as we know that most part of the popularity live in small towns and villages and they not well educated and aware of all these and the anandabazaar patrika is read by them too.
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Bishnupriya Das population*
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Bishnupriya Das i m not talking about the people who live in big cities and are well educated,i know that they are able to understand that its a satire.
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Akash Questing Eternity @subh,that is d pseudologic used by d homophobes which she used at d beginning of d article.but she has refuted it by referring to American Psychological Association and Indian Psychiatric Association which admit that homosexuality is not a disease.
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Pompi Banerjee that's a question that is a part of the satire. it is meant to provoke thought. and, it is not acvording to the author... it is a ststement of the common mindset. also, thst line sets the tone of the article. once the reader buys into it, then she goes on to examine each therapy and shows the futility of each. as I said, examine the article in context and in it's entirety.
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Priyadarshi Datta porlaam bhodromahilake bola uchit je nijer chele meye je shomokami sheta Ma/Baba shobche sheshe jante pare ar ta chara notun DSM-IV which is the bible of psychiatry and perhaps we can put the lady as a single case in need of psychologicall help ASAP....she should be put under care. and watched closely........
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Pompi Banerjee DSM IV is not new. It is neither bible of psychiatry. ICD 10 is also follwed for diagnosis and treatment. DSM V is the latest one and has raised many cotroversies. The previous one was DSM IV TR (text revision). Have read DSM IV TR quite well in my years of training in clinical psychology and I don't see the author fiting into any of the criteriafr didiagnosis. Once again, for the sake of humanity, let's keep tattacks limited to the article and not to the person. Last but not the least, I think I'll Unfollow this post because I am appaled at the judgement, prejudice and the hostile attitude put on display in this discussion. All because you don't understand what she has tried to say in a non-conventional manner - she dared to be different. We go on walks to ask the society to be more tolerant and accepting our different love. But when it comes to us, we can't do the same. Ask yourselves, can you truely expect something from others, if you urself can't do it.? Ppl are calling her crazy because what she wrote, some said she should be beaten. At the end, we are all same animals that can't stand differences in being. No wonder, others react the same way cause they don't understand us. I refuse to be a part of something that is so derogatory. I can't stand the negativity being spewed. See u all on another discussion.
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Prithviraj Nath sigh..this is actually completely headed the wrong way or so i feel...i very much agree with Pompi Banerjee when she says "... All because you don't understand what she has tried to say in a non-conventional manner - she dared to be different. We go on walks to ask the society to be more tolerant and accepting our different love. But when it comes to us, we can't do the same"....
please...we all are entitled to our opinion of the article and whether or not it puts alternate sexuality and the phobia surrounding it in a negative/positive light...but in no ways does it mean that we will name call her and malign her character or her sanity in undesirable/unconstitutional terms.
some of you might still feel that she is being "homophobic" in her article (which i dont feel anymore though after re-reading and re-analysing it)...a subject of personal perception...but that can be put across in a dignified way...
if you feel that she has been unjustified in the way she has portrayed homosexuality or in the way she has used certain words, you are certainly entitled to your perception/opinion of it..but how are you being different by calling her names and resorting to personal attacks?...i would suggest that all of us should just take a re-look and decide whether or not we are behaving in a similar "phobic" manner here..
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Moumita Ghosh আগের কমেন্ট গুলো না পড়ে বলছি, এই লেখাটি এবং লেখিকাকে নিয়ে অনেকের ভুল ভ্রান্তি হচ্ছে। লেখাটি ব্যাঙ্গ করে লেখা তাঁদের প্রতি যারা সমকামিতাকে অসুখ মনে করেন। যেখান থেকে লেখাটি নেওয়া হয়ছে--
http://www.guruchandali.com/default/2012/05/21/1337621875673.html#.Ue1otqysmMM (প্রথম কিস্তি)
http://www.guruchandali.com/default/2012/06/27/1340738926495.html#.Ue1ouqysmMM (দ্বিতীয় কিস্তি)
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Prithviraj Nath thanks a lot Moumita Ghosh...this is a fabulous read indeed...i guess all this confusion is due to the fact that ABP has truncated the original write-up due to paucity of space and that has resulted in misdirected interpretation of her writing....
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Debbiee Nath Germanotta Moumita Ghosh ami apnar sathe akmot
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Bishnupriya Das thanks for sharing the whole story@ moumita ghosh,and anadabazaar patrika should be ashamed of not sharing the whole story
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Abhishek Chatterjee lekhata ekadhik baar poreo,irony bolei mone holo..bhasa niye baag bitonda hote paare..but lekhata homophobia sombondhei ekta phobia sristi korche as said by Kaustuv Dasgupta...
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Ipsita Pal ABP r kono dosh nei. okahne ato space paoa jae na, bole ami i edit kore pathiechhilam. bhul bojhar jaiga toiri hoe thakle dukkhito.
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Ipsita Pal puro thread ta pore uthini, karo naam baad chole jete pare. Kaustabh, Pompi, Akash, Mou, Prithwiraj, apnader explanation er janyo anek dhanyobad
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Awe-vishek Guha Thakurta Ipsita: ami nijeo lawjjito je ami ei thread ta suru korechilam. Kichu ta bhul toh hoyechiloi, amar torof-e! 2yo baar porar por amar bhranti kete gache! Hya, tobe amar jeta mone hoy, amar mawto anek ei eki bhul korechen,ekbaar pore(ami nije dubaar porechi kintu)! Tai hoytoh ei raag er bohiprakash! Dhonyobaad!
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- Akash Questing Eternity i agree with u Bishnupriya Das....its too subtle.
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Pranjal D Phoenix The point is, most parents wouldn't even consider reading it twice.
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Kaustuv Dasgupta lekhata porlam,dhonyobad Awe-vishek Guha Thakurta. ami jodi khub garol na hoi tobe holof kore bolte pari ei lekha homophobia toiri korar jonyo noy.....ei lekha pore manusher homophobia somporke phobia toiri kore....ipsita pal choudhuri mohila ki osobhob buddhimottar songe aga gora ektuo na sore jabotiyo homophobic manushke dhakka diye gelen..ki tibro,ki bibhotso,ki chotur slesh!...lokhyo kore dekhun protiti "gay therapy" ke apato somorthoner modhyo diye tar pechhoner bibhotsotake chiniye dilen...ami homophobic lekha porechhi...rastaghate homophobic lokjoner hasi titkikiri kheye boro hoyechhi....amrai sob cheye bhalo jani homophobia ki jinish!...ei lekha homophobic hole net e anti-gay therapy r bhibhotso rup ki bhabe dekha jay tar thikana batle diten na...purota pore lekhikake kurnish janai...aha emon bhabeo lora jay....jara sotti homophobic tara keno gender sexuality r seminar sunte asbe?....keno LGBT right niye dirgho kabyo porte jaben...tader dole dhuke taqder nara dite hobe...noile to sei gota koek mukh ar tarder chhotto britte sukhi kon khuje amra "gay" thakbo...nije prantore prantik hoye jabar asonka ke upekhha kore ebhabe lore jabar jonne apnake selam....lekhata porar por apnake(ipsita pal choudhuri) facedbook e khujchhi...ekta thank you bolar chhilo.
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Bishnupriya Das my parents are atlest B.A pass but most ppl reading these newsparers are not even that much educated specially in small town areas where i live so for them reading it twice n trying to recognize the satiric tone................well they need to know first what is a satire lol
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Pinaki Biswas after reading it I could not understand if the writer is sarcastic about anti homosexuality or homosexuality....but one thing is sure the writer is sarcastic ! (I am feeling disgusted )
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Pranjal D Phoenix I agree with you Bishnupriya Das. A newspaper is meant for the mass.. It's not only for a class of people..
5 hours ago · Like · 1
Bishnupriya Das yeah thats what i am saying too
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Suvojit Sarkar Well! I've read it multiple times now! it is a satire for sure, what I felt the author entirely overdid the article, either she is genuinely unaware about the socioeconomic aspect of LGBT people in our society(which surely doesn't qualify her to be a columnist on the same) or she just went overboard with her verbal jibes beyond any limitations, that made her blind about the catastrophic side-effects of the most bluntly straight-forward form of sarcasm that she has created.
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Robin Sanyal I read it once. Was outraged. Read it again, noticed the quotations. Pondered it might be a satire. But should we not keep in mind the time we are living in? Is the time ripe enough to afford such a satire? Is the 'bengali reader' ready to read this as a satire? Or will the readers overlook the finer details and turn even more homophobic?
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Muskaan Chakraborty I dont know whether i should laugh at her or feel pity for her.A person can be how much foolish so that she can write such a article. What she said ???homosexuliaty is a "ashukh"??And it can be cured by electric shock therapy???ohhh!!!how disgusting!!iI think SHE herself is "asustha",and she immediately needs an electric shock therapy.This is completely abhorrent to me.*I AM FEELING HORRIBLY DISGUSTED*
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Neil Bose abysmal attempt at a satirical article ... the author although has the freedom to let her readers understand and interpret themselves,however,she should have kept in mind how the general 'mass' reaction would be to such 'spicy/masaledar/hetero-concept-patriarchy-supportive' and highly provocative piece of literature that at length re-establishes homophobia and the 'un-natural-ity' ...
... in times where parents of queer individuals are trying to accustom themselves and learn/come out/support their children...this may rather be quite a disincentive for them !!!
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Muskaan Chakraborty Is she really sarcastic?? ....m confused.For me it seems hard to get its actual meaning.
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Subh Dutta ei mohilar swami o mone hoy gay,, vaggis amader ghore ba rajje anondo bazar milata khub e sohoj na
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Neil Bose ... a question indeed...whether we are hoping it to be a satire or is it indeed ?whatever it may be,my point of 1st time/one-read/immediate reaction and its implications are echoed by every ones comments above... ABYSMAL !!!
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Bishnupriya Das @Muskaan even u r not able to understand the satiric tone( if there is one!) so how can we expect that the common paople who are not much well educated to understand that its a satire??,,they would rather become more homophobic and start to believe that its a disease,the language is very harsh,,makes me remember of Harit Kumar
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Pompi Banerjee right now, I am disgusted with the amount of name calling and slangs going on in this discussion. Seriously, those cures she has written about are not of her own, people, those are different methods tried by the society over the years. She is not saying it's a disease, she says ppl may consider it so, while homophobia passes for normality. But the reaction and amount of hatred u all r spewing without even have read and understood the article makes me wonder... are humans really nothing but animals? U gotta discuss something, at least try to remain human and open.
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Muskaan Chakraborty Its trully not understandable.Its too confusing to get the actual sence.And u r right.If she is even supporting homosexuality in the article,it will be impossible for the common people to get it correctly.I was also trying to get atleast the meaning of the heading "lyaje paa",but its also impossible.Either she is not a good writer,or she is extremely homophobic.
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Subh Dutta she clearly mentiond over there that its a desease and " get well soon"
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Subh Dutta i think she is not at all educated .. " well and genuin educated"
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Prithviraj Nath okay people...the confusion apart....i feel the author did try to address homophobia with a view to ridicule rather than promote it..however her sarcasm might be lost on many people to begin with...
given that,while we all are entitled to express our concerns regarding it being lost on the mass (including many of us here) it is not desirable that we call her names..she is actually an ally..
but may be a message needs to go to her that her style might be slightly beyond the grasp of the common mass...and that a more straightforward piece may be needed to drive home the point for the hoi polloi....but lets please refrain from abusing..
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Pompi Banerjee Shubh, read again... she says get well soon to the homophobes. And she doesn't say that it's a disease. Really, first rule of a debate is that u check ur facts and quotes. Yes the tone of the article is provocative. She is stepping on the tail of the mass majority, first telling them their pseudologic and then ultimatelyrfuting them with facts. She has done her homework. Dug out the research papers that prove the stupidity of the cures. So yeah, read again. Want a debate? Do it properly with ur facts right and in-context.
2 hours ago · Like · 2
Bishnupriya Das lets have a practical test ,i would make my aunt read this and then lets see whats her reaction ,if she is able to understand the 'satire' or not,i will post comments tomorrow.
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Bishnupriya Das and my mother too*
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Soumik Chatterjee Pompi Banerjee not arguing but at the beginning of the article she has mentioned that homosexuality is un-natural..and watever is un-natural is a disease..
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Pompi Banerjee We can disagree with what she has written as well as how she has written it. But that does not give anyone the right to be verbally or physically abusive or presumptious about her education. Do remember you are talking about another person. Criticise the article, but not the person. I say person and not a woman because the sex or the gender doesn't mater. Dignity of life and freedom of speech is for everyone.
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